Journals of the Senate
2nd Session, 41st Parliament
Issue 6
Friday, October 25, 2013
9:00 a.m.
The Honourable Noël A. Kinsella, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
Andreychuk, Ataullahjan, Baker, Batters, Bellemare, Beyak, Black, Boisvenu, Brazeau, Buth, Callbeck, Carignan, Champagne, Charette-Poulin, Cools, Cowan, Dagenais, Dallaire, Demers, Eaton, Eggleton, Enverga, Fortin-Duplessis, Fraser, Frum, Gerstein, Greene, Housakos, Johnson, Kenny, Kinsella, Lang, LeBreton, MacDonald, Maltais, Manning, Marshall, Martin, Massicotte, McCoy, McInnis, McIntyre, Mercer, Meredith, Mockler, Munson, Neufeld, Ngo, Nolin, Oh, Oliver, Patterson, Plett, Poirier, Raine, Ringuette, Rivard, Runciman, Segal, Seidman, Smith (Cobourg), Smith (Saurel), Stewart Olsen, Tannas, Tkachuk, Unger, Verner, Wallace, Wallin, Wells, White
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
Andreychuk, Ataullahjan, Baker, Batters, Bellemare, Beyak, Black, Boisvenu, Brazeau, Buth, Callbeck, Carignan, Champagne, Charette-Poulin, Cools, Cowan, Dagenais, Dallaire, Demers, Eaton, Eggleton, Enverga, Fortin-Duplessis, Fraser, Frum, Gerstein, Greene, Housakos, Johnson, Kenny, Kinsella, Lang, LeBreton, MacDonald, Maltais, Manning, Marshall, Martin, Massicotte, McCoy, McInnis, McIntyre, Mercer, Meredith, Mockler, Munson, Neufeld, Ngo, Nolin, Oh, Oliver, Patterson, Plett, Poirier, Raine, Ringuette, Rivard, Runciman, Segal, Seidman, Smith (Cobourg), Smith (Saurel), Stewart Olsen, Tannas, Tkachuk, Unger, Verner, Wallace, Wallin, Wells, White
The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.
An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.
PRAYERS
SENATORS' STATEMENTS
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
ORDERS OF THE DAY
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS
Bills — Second Reading
Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Orders No. 1 to 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Senate Public Bills — Second Reading
Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
° ° °
Second reading of Bill S-202, An Act to amend the Payment Card Networks Act (credit card acceptance fees).
The Honourable Senator Ringuette moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Smith, P.C. (Cobourg), that the bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Commons Public Bills — Second Reading
Orders No. 1 to 9 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Fortin-Duplessis:
That, notwithstanding any usual practice or provision of the Rules, in order to protect the dignity and reputation of the Senate and public trust and confidence in Parliament, the Senate order a suspension for the Honourable Senator Brazeau for sufficient cause, considering his gross negligence in the management of his parliamentary resources, until such time as this order is rescinded pursuant to rule 5-5(i), and such suspension shall have the following conditions:
(a) Senator Brazeau, while under suspension, shall not receive any remuneration or reimbursement of expenses from the Senate, including any sessional allowance or living allowance;
(b) Senator Brazeau's right to the use of Senate resources, including funds, goods, services, premises, moving and transportation, travel and telecommunication expenses, shall be suspended for the duration of the suspension; and
(c) Senator Brazeau shall not receive any other benefit from the Senate during the duration of the suspension;
That, notwithstanding the provisions of this suspension motion, the Senate confirm that the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration retains the authority, as it considers appropriate, to take any action pertaining to the management of Senator Brazeau's office and personnel for the duration of the suspension;
And on the motion of the Honourable Senator Cowan, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fraser:
That this motion be referred to our Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament, when and if the committee is formed, for consideration and report;
That Senator Brazeau be invited to appear; and in light of the public interest in this matter, pursuant to rule 14-7(2), proceedings be televised;
And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator Fraser, seconded by the Honourable Senator Munson:
That the motion be amended by replacing the words "Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament'' with the words "Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration''.
After debate,
The question was put on the motion in amendment.
Pursuant to rule 9-10(2), a standing vote was deferred until 5:30 p.m. at the next sitting, with the bells to sound at 5:15 p.m. for fifteen minutes.
° ° °
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Poirier:
That, notwithstanding any usual practice or provision of the Rules, in order to protect the dignity and reputation of the Senate and public trust and confidence in Parliament, the Senate order a suspension for the Honourable Senator Wallin for sufficient cause, considering her gross negligence in the management of her parliamentary resources, until such time as this order is rescinded pursuant to rule 5-5(i), and such suspension shall have the following conditions:
(a) Senator Wallin, while under suspension, shall not receive any remuneration or reimbursement of expenses from the Senate, including any sessional allowance or living allowance;
(b) Senator Wallin's right to the use of Senate resources, including funds, goods, services, premises, moving and transportation, travel and telecommunication expenses, shall be suspended for the duration of the suspension; and
(c) Senator Wallin shall not receive any other benefit from the Senate during the duration of the suspension;
That, notwithstanding the provisions of this suspension motion, the Senate confirm that the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration retains the authority, as it considers appropriate, to take any action pertaining to the management of Senator Wallin's office and personnel for the duration of the suspension.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Cowan moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fraser:
That this motion be referred to our Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament for consideration and report;
That Senator Wallin be invited to appear; and in light of the public interest in this matter, pursuant to rule 14-7(2), proceedings be televised.
Debate.
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Wallin tabled the following:
A copy of a letter, dated July 26, 2013, from the firm of Lax, O'Sullivan, Scott, Lisus, LLP, to the Chair of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration respecting the investigation into Senator Wallin's travel expenses (English text).—Sessional Paper No. 2/41-100S.
Record of Decisions of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration concerning Travel-Living Expenses in the National Capital Region from 1990-2012 (English text).—Sessional Paper No. 2/41- 101S.
A copy of a letter, dated July 22, 2013, from the firm of Lax, O'Sullivan, Scott, Lisus, LLP, to Mr. Allan Stewart of Deloitte, respecting the investigation into Senator Wallin's travel expenses (English text).—Sessional Paper No. 2/41- 102S.
A copy of a letter, dated May 24, 2013, along with an accompanying document entitled: Evidence of Leaks, from the firm of Lax, O'Sullivan, Scott, Lisus, LLP, to the Chair of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration, respecting the investigation into Senator Wallin's travel expenses (English text).—Sessional Paper No. 2/41-103S.
Copies of email correspondence, dated May 17 and 18, 2013, between Terrence O'Sullivan and Ray Novak (et al.) (English text).—Sessional Paper No. 2/41-104S.
Ordered, That Sessional Papers No. 2/41-100S, 2/41-101S, 2/41-102S, 2/41-103S, 2/41-104S, be distributed to senators when they are available in both languages.
Ordered, That the transcripts of the meetings of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration held on August 12 and 13, 2013, relating to the committee's 27th report during the First Session of the Forty-first Parliament be tabled when they are available in both official languages.
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Kenny moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dallaire:
That the sitting be suspended for fifteen minutes.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 1:21 p.m. the sitting was suspended)
The Senate resumed at 1:42 p.m.
Motions
The Senate resumed debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Poirier:
That, notwithstanding any usual practice or provision of the Rules, in order to protect the dignity and reputation of the Senate and public trust and confidence in Parliament, the Senate order a suspension for the Honourable Senator Wallin for sufficient cause, considering her gross negligence in the management of her parliamentary resources, until such time as this order is rescinded pursuant to rule 5-5(i), and such suspension shall have the following conditions:
(a) Senator Wallin, while under suspension, shall not receive any remuneration or reimbursement of expenses from the Senate, including any sessional allowance or living allowance;
(b) Senator Wallin's right to the use of Senate resources, including funds, goods, services, premises, moving and transportation, travel and telecommunication expenses, shall be suspended for the duration of the suspension; and
(c) Senator Wallin shall not receive any other benefit from the Senate during the duration of the suspension;
That, notwithstanding the provisions of this suspension motion, the Senate confirm that the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration retains the authority, as it considers appropriate, to take any action pertaining to the management of Senator Wallin's office and personnel for the duration of the suspension;
And on the motion of the Honourable Senator Cowan, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fraser:
That this motion be referred to our Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament for consideration and report;
That Senator Wallin be invited to appear; and in light of the public interest in this matter, pursuant to rule 14-7(2), proceedings be televised.
After debate,
In amendment, the Honourable Senator Fraser moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Munson, that the motion be amended by replacing the words "Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament'' with the words "Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration''.
Debate.
At 4 p.m, pursuant to rule 3-4, the Speaker declared the Senate adjourned until at Monday, October 28, 2013 at 2 p.m.
REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7):
Summary of the Corporate Plan for 2013-2017 of the Atlantic Pilotage Authority, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).—Sessional Paper No. 2/41-99.
Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5
Committee of Selection
The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., replaced the Honourable Senator Moore (October 24, 2013).